Spreads and number sequences

[Ddog]

Hi, I'm a newby to Preps and was wondering if anyone has a chart or some kind of cheat sheet for numbering 16 page and up forms. Thanks in advance!

--tom

[jason]

Make yourself a dummy.

[David]

Originally Posted by Ddog

Hi, I'm a newby to Preps and was wondering if anyone has a chart or some kind of cheat sheet for numbering 16 page and up forms. Thanks in advance!

--tom

Numbering is easy, it's getting to know how the bindery will fold it is another thing.
If you just want to know what pages will go together in printers spreads, there are some tricks.

try this one:
Take a piece of paper and make the numbers in a line going down the page in numerical order, and when you get to the middle numbers, go up the page in numerical order, voil?, instant printers spreads.
Like this
1 16 flip this one and every other one (to be pg 16 - pg 1)
2 15
3 14 (to be pg 14 - pg 3, etc)
4 13
5 12 (to be pg 12 - pg 5)
6 11
7 10 (to be pg 10 - pg 7)
8 9 (center spread)

hope this helps,
David

[Zalgren]

Originally Posted by jason

Make yourself a dummy.

This is the best option IMO. If you don't have a grasp on how the sigs will fold go and talk the the folder operator. Open lines of communication can save a job from a reprint.

Seriously - just gram a scrap of paper and fold it like the actual sig will be folded and write the page numbers on it. open the paper back up and there you are.

-Ed

[Joeg]

I take and make a Dummy and then to number it I cut a V pointing to the head of the page, just to make sure that everything is going to end up in the right rotation too, then number the Cut paper so it all stays together in a sig, also helps for multiple sig books as well. If that just confuses you, I'm sorry but I don't know how else to explain it.

[Zalgren]

From a quick Google search

[Sparky]

Take the total number of pages in a document and add "1" that will be the total that any 2 pages will add up to in a "printer spread"
so a 48 page book (saddle stitch, or even on a 16 page sheet) will add up to 49. i.e. the center spread pages 24-25 = 49, 12-37 = 49. also remember that (all thing considered and the dam don't give) the odd page will be on the right facing page with the first page always being "1" or Outside Front Cover (OFC) Inside Front Cover = page 2 (left page) and so on.
:wink:

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Ddog

Hi, I'm a newby to Preps and was wondering if anyone has a chart or some kind of cheat sheet for numbering 16 page and up forms. Thanks in advance!

--tom

I'm assuming you know the printer spread numbers that go together like others have explained and I'm guessing you mean how should the flats be numbered in Preps.

For a simple 16 page sig book you'd divide it into fourths and the front side of plate one would have 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13, 16 while the back would have 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, 15. That is a pretty simple fold but if you get into running half and 3/4 webs it can get quite complicated depending on where the pressmen want you to place the partial web.

Short answer....No, there is no chart or some kind of cheat sheet for numbering 16 page and up forms. It depends on how it folds and how the pressmen want to do it.

[papawestray]

hey Ddog

get out now

if you cant get your head round that one you stand no chance when it gets realy busy!!!!!!!