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David · #11 (**permalink**) 08-09-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by printmonger

We work in an environment where the production manager doesn't understand prepress and its intricacies.

it's a universal problem...
none of you are alone in this.

they don't have time to learn what you do, they have to go out and get their new I phone and see if they can get their email to work!

Yez · #12 (**permalink**) 08-09-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by David

it's a universal problem...
none of you are alone in this.

they don't have time to learn what you do, they have to go out and get their new I phone and see if they can get their email to work!

Or you get the ones who call around the industry to get lingo that they can toss around trying to prove it's all preps fault.

"you see the icc curve was ouside the photoshop gambit. It really had nothing to do with the fact that we were using reflex blue in place of process blue..."

tony_mclachlan · #13 (**permalink**) 08-12-2007, 04:52 AM

Hi all,

Just reading through this thread and can agree its the same everywhere, even here down under! I ask the press guys to always run to standard strengths and if there are colour adjustments to be made, bring them back to prepress, but yea... I actually get along with the operators at work (I may be in the minority there) but I know for a fact they will alter strengths, etc when printing a job to get a nice result. Only prob is nobody else knows what these on-the-fly assumptions may have been. I want to implement a colour managed workflow in our shop but I think this style of printing may be holding us back.. any thoughts/opinions??

Cheers, Tony

Mickyj07 · #14 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 08:03 AM

We had this problem with proofs not matching the press once. I spent the day rechecking the LAB and Delta E's. Press crew was saying how much I suck blah blah blah, turned out the pressman hadn't flipped a certain switch for one of the press towers. Within a matter of seconds, the problem was corrected, and my proof matched the press. 6 hours of down time over pride. Of course, I was still my fault. No Slur marks on the impo. I was told they didn't need slur marks a few months earlier.. go figure.

The_Stevinator · #15 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 08:28 AM

ha, that would just open yourself to a wide array of smart ass remarks, which would be pretty counter-productive.

VindictivePrinter · #16 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 06:38 PM

Over my 18 years in the trade I have probably heard every department complain about prepress.

We are Prima donnas.
All we do is sit on our butts.
Just push the Button!
Just print what is in the file!

I have probably heard it all, but the end all, be all, was an owner telling me that I was a necessary evil. That comment even beats the time I heard a client tell an owner that every Mac person he has should be fired. (BTW: we got to see that client get fired by his boss. LOL!) Maybe someday I will be used to everyone in the trade thinking that Prepress is the source of all the problems, but it won't be anytime soon.

Chin up people! You are not alone.

Mickyj07 · #17 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VindictivePrinter

Maybe someday I will be used to everyone in the trade thinking that Prepress is the source of all the problems, but it won't be anytime soon.

Chin up people! You are not alone.

I thought I'd get used to it, but like the rest of you, it's just getting really old.

If it's not sales pulling you by the left arm, it's the press and post press pulling you by the right. I threw my hands up last night and walked out. Of course, I walked right back in this morning.

Lets face it. We like our jobs. At least I do. Which is probably why the rest of production doesn't like us. They always seem to hate theirs.

The_Stevinator · #18 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 09:12 AM

i think if more prepress technicians ran companies the world would be a better place.

Mickyj07 · #19 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Stevinator

i think if more prepress technicians ran companies the world would be a better place.

Let's take that idea a step higher, get rid of sales as an industry and just let us run the damn show completely

Joe · #20 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickyj07

Let's take that idea a step higher, get rid of sales as an industry and just let us run the damn show completely

LOL...you really don't like sales do you? Now if you get rid of sales who is going to bring in the work? You, a prepress person? Then you'd be a salesman.