Have a great day thanks

[artnovia]

thanks for all who helped. Its now time for me to put all the good ones to work to help all hopefully in a good way and as for the one who told me to go to the rants and raves what good would it do for me to read it without getting permission from people to use their stories for my class project. I would never use explicit someone story you know without their permission. :roll:
Sincerely, Beth 8)

[apepp]

...a couple i can remember is as follows, i started in CTP at the end of the 90's...

...designer supplies artwork as readers spreads (i.e pages 1 and 2 side-by-side) in a single spread page format (this results in an unnecessary amount of additional work to impose the pages for press and bindery). Not too much of a problem if it is a relatively small number of pages, my example had 96 pages (plus 4 page cover). Queried this with the designer and gave him the option to re-supply in a single page format or to have us fix it all at studio cost. This we did in the end not only at big expense to the designer but also in a very delayed job getting to the final end client...

...another happened recently to my studio manager:

...designer supplies artwork on disc, printing same day (bloody daft and a recipy for disaster!!). Studio boss agrees with designer to PDF format proof, due to tight deadline. The designer views PDF in Acrobat Standard and signs off as OK on email. Our studio boss views artwork in Acrobat Professional with Overprint Preview turned on and therefore doesn't see on screen or on the printed in-house proof the white vector background that dominates the design. Designer had changed a black overprinting design in Illustrator to white and thus the white became overprinting...

...100,000 plus 32 page booklets (I think it was) got printed without the white elements, a real sickener for all concerned. Of course, there is always time for a reprint. To get some jobs right first time (it's seemingly) not having the time to get them right that causes the problems...

...another classic are die cut folder designs being artwork identicallly for the outer as for the inner, they need to be opposite to line up properly and artworked to a proper vector drawing for the die cut to be made from (if an existing cutting forme isn't available)...

...another one I have just remembered is the use of RGB images. Designer supplied artwork as illustrator eps layed out into quark. We supplied digital proofs to designer who came back to us with a couple of new eps pages to replace the existing ones. Turns out the designer used an RGB image background first time around on one computer, saved to eps from native .ai format. Upon the amendment they opened the native .ai format on a different computer with different color settings used. Therefore when the file was saved down to eps again it had converted differently to CMYK. This image in question spread across pages and therfore didn't match when on press to the previously used artwork. We had to pull this off press in the end to sort it out with the designers, so a delayed job resulted...

Andrew

[Kid_Leo]

Send the right files, hardcopy, and don't refuse proofs.

Not a particular story because it has happened so many times that I don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the times it has happened.

Recieve a disk from the customer, no mockup or lasers, just an unlabled disk with the instructions to "print what's on the disk". Prepress does their job, fixes up the files makes gets it all together and makes a proof. Customer says "I don't need to see a proof", we insist or they must sign a waiver that makes them responsible for everything but World War II, they relent and look at the proof and find that they had sent the wrong file. Sometimes its not just the wrong version, but a completely different job for a different customer. So they get to pay for all the prep work, proofs, etc. for a job that was wrong.

Moral of the story, don't believe that your infallible because life will bite you in the ass every time you do.

[SlaveToTheMan]

Once, I saw the exact same topic on a forum posted two days apart. In separate threads. Crazy man! :P

[Pointyhat]

:lol:

[tuff_gong]

Once I had to do a brochure for this Christian outreach volleyball club. They OK'd the proof, signed off, then realized the color break might not find favor in Our Lord's eyes. They hurried over to the plant, neglecting to notice the Check Engine light glowing on their Aerostar.
They ended up sideswiping a busload of nuns, were able to plead down to Negligent Homicide, but NEVER paid for the print job.

[duck]

What I am doing is putting peoples stories together in a book with tips in it to help newbie designers to be able to know what to avoid.

What to avoid:

10. Saying "It looked OK on my screen"
9. Publisher
8. stylized fonts
7. Pointyhat
6. Word
5. multiple versions of the same spot color
4. double posting on PPF
3. thinking that because you can draw "Tippy" that you can design for print
2. Any other Microsoft programs I haven't yet mentioned

and #1: the prepress_help IRC channel
(they wouldn't survive more than a few minutes in there).

[Pointyhat]

Most, most especially #7

[born2print]

Definately #4

[born2print]

#4 too, absolutely