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Old 03-13-2006, 02:41 PM
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When dealing with stupid/ignorant people, I say "a guy like that has to work somewhere". They hate when you say that.

When my CSR sees a leak in an image box or a really bad clipping path he ALWAYS asks me to check the trapping, no matter how many times I expain it to him, he doesn't F@#king understand.

OH, and it's Monday
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:15 AM
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Color, color color

I get called to the press today to look at job running to dark. it's 4/c process with a few PMS to CMYK matches on it. They keep telling me the colors are wrong. I have my trusty Spot to Process Book from Pantone and the check the values of the color, read the plates. All is good on my end. Then the CSR pulls out his pantone book and says my values are wrong the color breaks down to 47% warm red, 47% rubine and 6% black. Remember this is a 4/c Process job. I say which unit is running warm red and which is rubine. The CSR quick as lighting says, this is a 4/c process job we are not running those.

At that I walked out of the pressroom.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:40 AM
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Mjetz, I feel for ya. The only thing worse than that is working with a guy that when a job comes in that is anything more than a 4c brochure of one of few standard sizes needs help to work on it. He's one of these guys that wants you to hold his hand and tell him how to do a job and once it's done he forgets what you told him. You have to go over the same sh$%t the next time the job comes in. The only thing that tops that is that he gets congratulated for doing a fine job. WTF!

Sorry, I guess that wasn't a classic quote and I went on a tangent. Honestly, does anyone else out there have co-worker dipsh$^ts like this?
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:45 AM
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Yep.
I'm working on finding his replacement.

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Old 04-05-2006, 11:49 AM
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Yep.
I'm working on finding his replacement.

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Lucky bastard!

This guy I work with has got 9 lives! Should have been escorted out long ago but I couldn't be that lucky.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:23 PM
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Here is a quote I'll remember until I die (from a few years ago). I was training a new employee with Photoshop and scanning experience how to use our scanner. Everything was pretty cool but after a couple of weeks he still kept having trouble utilizing some tools in the interface scanner interface. Finally, I just told him "It's in the book." I thought maybe he would pick it up and remember it by reading it. His reply, "I don't like to read."

WTF?! My respect-o-meter just went to zero when I heard that. I suppose that means someone else has to learn the new stuff and explain it to "you". Kinda like kindergarten.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:01 PM
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Here is a quote I'll remember until I die (from a few years ago). I was training a new employee with Photoshop and scanning experience how to use our scanner. Everything was pretty cool but after a couple of weeks he still kept having trouble utilizing some tools in the interface scanner interface. Finally, I just told him "It's in the book." I thought maybe he would pick it up and remember it by reading it. His reply, "I don't like to read."

WTF?! My respect-o-meter just went to zero when I heard that. I suppose that means someone else has to learn the new stuff and explain it to "you". Kinda like kindergarten.

give him some crayons and learn him to draw... :lol:
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His reply, "I don't like to read."
At PCC/Artwork Systems training 6-7 years ago, back when Ted was still doing draining, he asked us on the first day if anyone in the class was named Fred. No? Ok, good, because he liked to use "Freddie" as his example when pointing to a prepress technician who doesn't like to read. Or think.

We had a pair of Freddies when I started, 7 years ago, one is still around. I called them the Mopsey Twins. They had this deal, their Innovative Cutting Edge Prepress Initative, that consisted of saving every Quark file they got to a Quark eps, then opening the eps in Illustrator 6. (Illustrator 8 had been out for months, but that's another issue. We all hated 7.)

They had never bothered to learn Quark. Instead they made incredible messes of the client's work. Quark's non-standard Postscript epses suck, and have sucked even worse since about 1992 when Postscript Level 2 came out (Q epses stayed at Level 1 until 6.0) So these guys were ruining jobs - what should have been smooth blends (on 8' silkscreen jobs) showed big-time banding, since PS level 1 only supports 256 shades of grey. The type jumped all around and the letterspacing went kerblooie. All the spots were tintstripped. No registration color! No image links! Bounding boxes from the Quark "conversion" in the way all over the place.

I couldn't believe I was seeing this and bugged the manager until he, very reluctantly, called a meeting. I made my statement about the unprofessional and unreliable technique they were using, they replied that "it works fine for us." One of them yelled at me "you're just a typesetter. If you knew anything at all about Illustrator you'd see what a great idea this is!" I'd been using Illustrator since Illustrator 88 came out, about when these guys were in highschool printing shop classes.

When I pointed out that I was seeing press sheets out in the pressroom with the type scrunched together and shoved apart - one of the more exciting aspects of this cutting edge idiocy - they shouted, in unison, like they'd practiced it:

"No one ever looks at this stuff! The clients don't care!"

Then the boss called for a vote. A vote! Two for, two against, one abstention. Ok, they could keep doing it, but only when, in their professional judgement, it was absolutely necessary. Right. Nothing changed.

Two years later, after requesting our post-production files, a major client instructed their separator to send us locked pdfs. Our management went ballistic. The client responded that they'd discovered that we were converting their Quark files to Illustrator and that they were very upset about this.

I was called into the office for a conference call with the separator. I got to hear all this first-hand. Oh boy, I thought. Now maybe this lunacy will stop. Not so fast, typeboy. The plant manager threw it back in the clients face and said we'd do whatever we felt like doing with their files, and they'd just have to send us the native files. Their business then fell way off. We still don't get nearly as much of it as we did. They do a lot of printing. We're doing less and less. It's like working for neo-cons. Ideology trumps competence and common sense.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:30 AM
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That is so sad man, what a blinkered gaffa he needs to grow some balls and kick Beavis n Buuthead into touch!

A almighty case of 'I told u so'

Incidently are they still working there?
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:44 AM
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Man Hotmetal, that is a pretty bad scenario. I don't know how you deal with the mental frustration. To stay and work with guys like that your aptitude for patience must be pretty high.

One funny thing that happened here was that one April Fools day, the shop dummy thought it would be funny to give the boss his letter of resignation. I still can't figure out why they let that golden oppertunity go by. They just told him, somewhat sternly, to never do that again. WTF?! Anybody else would have been out on their ear.

Oh yeah, this guy was also trying to impress some new hiree chick by breakdancing in the middle of the prepress area. I'm sure she was real impressed after he almost kicked a printer off the desk and busted the out-feed tray. Did I mention that nobody does that since the '80s. The owner just kind of chuckled. Again, if this was anyone else they would have been gone!

I just don't understand why people actually doing their job have to deal with this sh&*(t.

Sorry, I'll back off the venom now.
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