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12-15-2006, 03:10 AM
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Probably the best quote I have personally heard.
"Does it have enough bleed?"
Co-Worker: "What's Bleed?"
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12-15-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LoganBlade
do you have a process curve for your plates. If not take a day and work with pressman super and try to make a curve in the plats to match your proof. Go to www.gracol.com it has a stndard process that is great make a great neutral gray.
Get quality profile picture. I think the grcol site has some in the beta testing. Print your proof and print the plates and have hime run it.
PRofile the press adding more screen to the colors you think will improve the match. If you dont have software to do this.
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This is information understood by myself and also by the pressroom Supe, but to is completely ignored and given the long finger up by the owner, and thus, by me.
To further clarify, I am only 37, and I live and work in an area where everyone who is under 45 is a considered to be a stupid man who should shut up and listen to his elders who have been in printing for 30 years. Informed knowledge and detailed scientific data are irrelevant. I am so lucky!
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12-29-2006, 06:44 AM
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One of my favorites comes from a former salesman. We had a job that had a particular scanned image of a bookshelf complete with books. He wanted us to move one of the books to the right so he could read the cover of the book next to it! Had to explain to him that the scan didn’t exist in the “three dimensional” world in which he was accustomed. Not sure if he ever quite got it.
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01-02-2007, 07:41 PM
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Seems like every discussion with a salesperson/CSR regarding various (and often repetative) shortcomings with customers' files gets the same timeless response.....
"So what do I tell the designer?"
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01-02-2007, 07:46 PM
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i was on vacation for 10 days and i forget how to do my job...
no fucking lie
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Best color Proof on HP 5000 & EPSON 9800
Fuji Luxel Blue Violet CTP GTO plate and SM102
2 Polar cuttters
2 MBO26 continuous feeders
1 MBO 20
1 ST90 Saddle stitcher
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01-02-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LoganBlade
i was on vacation for 10 days and i forget how to do my job...
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I've worked with guys who forget how to do their jobs on the way back from the shitter. But don't get me started.
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would you be wanting some kerning with that?
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01-02-2007, 09:42 PM
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I think that happens on some days
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3-MAC G5
Signastaion 9
Delta 7
Best color Proof on HP 5000 & EPSON 9800
Fuji Luxel Blue Violet CTP GTO plate and SM102
2 Polar cuttters
2 MBO26 continuous feeders
1 MBO 20
1 ST90 Saddle stitcher
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01-03-2007, 10:05 AM
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Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada
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ug...
Sales Rep comes in and notifies me that she is in the process of writing up the Docket but wanted to let me know what was going to be involved in the job:
"Here's the clients business card (3.5x 2 full process, 3/4 view of a man kneeling to the right, holding a set of antlers, in a field with white text over top). It's an older picture of the client and he wants you to replace him in the field with a newer photo (lays out 4 8.5x11 images)."
I look at the images..they're all face front, head-on shots.
I say," Sure. Clipping, feathering, rubberstamping, yadda-yadda, no problem"
She says (drumroll) " He wants you to just replace his face tho. Can you just flip one of these pictures so his face is pointing in the right direction? I told him we could do it no problem"
... at this point my head is now resting confortably on my desk and I'm in my happy place.
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01-04-2007, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean
Can you just flip one of these pictures so his face is pointing in the right direction? I told him we could do it no problem
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And the salesperson never gets in any trouble for this idiocy. If anything, they get a raise and a promotion. But if we say "that is a physical - and a metaphysical - impossibility" because that just happens to be how things work on this planet at this point in time with the most advanced technology available to us lowly print technicians, we get smacked upside the head for being "difficult."
If you say "yes" all the time, even though later on it turns out you couldn't actually do the thing you said "yes" to, you get promoted. If you actually know how all this stuff works - and tell the truth when asked - your're fucked.
Move along, nothing new to look at here.
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would you be wanting some kerning with that?
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01-05-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hotmetal
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Originally Posted by Sean
Can you just flip one of these pictures so his face is pointing in the right direction? I told him we could do it no problem
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And the salesperson never gets in any trouble for this idiocy. If anything, they get a raise and a promotion. But if we say "that is a physical - and a metaphysical - impossibility" because that just happens to be how things work on this planet at this point in time with the most advanced technology available to us lowly print technicians, we get smacked upside the head for being "difficult."
If you say "yes" all the time, even though later on it turns out you couldn't actually do the thing you said "yes" to, you get promoted. If you actually know how all this stuff works - and tell the truth when asked - your're fucked.
Move along, nothing new to look at here.
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Absolutely! lol
In the end I told the Rep there was no possible way of doing that with the images provided without making him look like a bobble-head. I told her to call him, tell him to grab his antlers and we'll take an appropriate photo and merge that.
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