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Old 10-20-2004, 01:00 PM
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Tiff image dropping out of Quark 5 PDF

Does anyone know why a CMYK tif image placed in Mac Quark (and it's 8 bit so it's not an 8/16 bit issue) disappears when exporting a PDF of the page directly from Quark or when creating a postscript from Quark and distilling it? The image comes across loud and clear into the PDF on my PC...

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Old 10-21-2004, 05:19 AM
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Ah.. found solution. For one of the problem pages with a CMYK TIF image, I had the person uncheck "Print full resoltuion TIF images" in the output tab and it worked fine, but the second problem page still had a problem and it was a bitmap image. I checked how the operator was exporting the PDF and realized that since Quark's Export to PDF actually prints a postscript file which is then automatically distilled by whatever separate distilling program you have, the print settings (not just the export PDF settings) have to be looked at before making the PDF, and sure enough OPI was checked, Include EPS Images was checked but Include TIF Images was unchecked. Fixed those, saved print settings, export to PDF works like a charm. Sorry for posting without fully researching problem but wasn't sure if I have time with my own jobs.
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Old 10-21-2004, 11:43 AM
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Quark's Export to PDF actually prints a postscript file which is then automatically distilled by whatever separate distilling program you have
Glad you solved your problem, and thanks for posting the solution for others.

I thought that Quark (6) uses the Jaws engine to make PDFs, not whatever distilling app the user might have. There is a setting in Prefs that lets you either export directly to PDF or to write a Postscript for later distilling.
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Hmm.. this operator was using Quark 5 for the job. Oh my, I've turned PC. I'll have to read up on the Jaws PDF creation. I've heard about it but haven't delved deeper into the tehnical/mechanics. From what you said about Quark using the Jaws engine, though, it seems Quark still writes a file that gets converted by another (sub?)application, unless Jaws works off the native Quark document itself. Ah, research research learning never ceases.
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Old 10-22-2004, 10:31 AM
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Results are in:

I found the following excerpt from David Blatner's "Real World QuarkXPress 6" on the

creativepro website here:

http://www.creativepro.com/story/fea...ml?cprose=5-04

I found several other references to QuarkXpress writing postscript and having Jaws distill it. So as it stands, the flow remains 'application - postscript - distill app' regardless of what the packaging tells us, meaning that both print and pdf settings need to be checked on Quark 6 Mac to ensure quality PDFs. The Mac operators here are busy today so I can't test it out, but if someone else can clarify that'd be great.

I believe the Write to Postscript for later distilling' merely postpones the distilling. The postscript file written by Quark is similar to the temporary files all applications create when you open a document - temporary files written to assist the application process data, but it is a postscript-distill process nonetheless.
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Old 10-22-2004, 11:02 AM
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Quark 6.1 still writes a postscript file first as you suspected. I have been using Creo's new PXT 4.0 extension to write my .ps files and distilling with distiller. The Jaws distiller writes much larger files than Acrobat and they are not always reliable.
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