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Old 07-17-2007, 11:08 AM
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its a communication industry - communicate with people providing a service
I can't agree with that statement. You'll be surprised how poor communication is among the people in this field. Designers can't understand why they can't do certain things. Prepress folks can't stand idiots that won't confirm to their workflow standards. Throw in a sales rep in between the two and often you can see how long things gets turn around.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:05 AM
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ohh yeah - i agree there's a deffo gulf in skills and understanding, but if you need to supply your files to someone else ask them how they can best handle it - many folks would like layered files, many pdf, many mac based, many pc based - and the list goes on.

and you could not be MORE right about sales reps.....some desighners get whats really needed, but i've found them few and far between in my experience - still - keeps me in a job!!
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:32 PM
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- still - keeps me in a job!!
Alas, it's a beautiful thing, the psd in the ai in the indd, if only it were that simple. - i don't know much about quark 7 but 6.5 doesn't do any of that, and can't output dcs as a composite. It's sooo convenient to design layouts with all of these advanced features, but the issue is(and has always been) the transfer of what designers dream up onto a plate and paper. The way i see it, and i have personally beat this issue up myself, is tifs and eps' both have advantages and disadvantages though i believe the eps file to be more of a beneficial format for (printer) final files. Why would you want the eps; the ability to incorporate vector data, spot plates, and ultimately the security of a flattened file. If you have multiple clipping paths an eps will make you specify one to use. If your layers contain transparency the issues will be resolved once you save as an eps in photoshop and illustrator. One last thing is, the tif format now allows for layers and spot colors have you ever tried to separate a tif with a spot? most of us know this is not possible and would go to a dcs(eps) but do the designers?
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:50 AM
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i'll disagree a little with you there - i'm seeing a big trend now with psd files. eps's seem mostly for quack now - but this is just what i'm seeing here.

designers are clued up on the psd trip, and i for one am glad. spot colours, live transparency - vector art - it's a no lose really - then you bring quack into the equation and it all falls down.

transparency means you dont necessarily need a clipping path - if you work in CS anyway. quack - well say no more.

quack 7 still has the dcs issue - documented on PPF many times - so again - why bother with it at all. quack 7 will take psd's - but if i get to the point of resaving the dcs as psd i'm usually found booting indy up for a quick re-typeset if possible.

psd imho is the best format now.

until quack is used - then just throw it all in the air and shout at it.
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