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11-04-2004, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe
I agree with everyone else. For Publisher, get Acrobat and Pitstop. You WILL need it at some point. Also the Publisher ---> PDF is the route to go. Also find a good RGB to CMYK profile to use in Pitstop. The default color conversion in Pitstop is horrendous.
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Where can one find a "good" profile? I agree pitstop has a horrendous rgb -> cmyk profile.
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11-04-2004, 02:56 PM
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PITSTOP, PITSTOP PITSTOP!!!!!! HOW MANY TIMES HAVE OTHERS ON HERE MENTIONED THAT LIFE WITH MICROSOFT CRAP CANNOT BE TOLERATED WITHOUTH PITSTOP!!!!! PRINT THIS DAMNED REPLY OUT AND PUT IT ON YOUR BOSSES DESK!!!!!!! WITHOUT THIS LITTLE ADDITION TO MY TOOLBOX I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OUTPUT THE ABOUT 100 WORD/PUBLISER/EXCEL FILES I'VE HAD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEY EVEN LOOKED GOOD!!!!!!!
Uh, sorry to yell but every time I think about bonehead bosses who can't justify the cost of pitstop yet insist on outputting Microsuck files on a regualr basis I get very pissed off. VERY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-04-2004, 03:43 PM
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Pitstop is definitly a life saver, besides, pitstop is inexpensive compared to the prepress system anyone is running. I think it should be on the checklist of everyone's purchase list.
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11-04-2004, 06:57 PM
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Interesting, my boss just keeps shaking his head and mumbles "we gotta get PitStop" over and over and over....
In the meantime I'm left with working with these little gems. Not only is Publisher being made available to every damn clueless customer who has a PC but my boss himself is responsible for touting it as the answer to all his customers needs..........arrgggggggg!!
I work with publisher every day (I hate it but since I'm forced I've learned it) and I'm (God help me) getting kinda familiar with it. Anyone out there tried to place a 2/color (black and spot PMS) .eps file into a PUB file and get it to print seps OK? we couldn't for months...........
I even posted a Thread about it in the Windows Forum but all I got was rhetoric. Anyway , 2 years ago I would have grabbed a bat and gone after anyone who talked against Quark, Especially InDesign, but now I use it (ID) exclusively and wonder how I ever defended Quark
:wink: Well the same goes for PublishWhore, I didn't understand it so I instantly hated it (still do) but I learned to use it.....
And now have a rather good grasp of it. So ask away, and we shall try to help, at least I will :?
Good Luck buddy.......
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11-04-2004, 07:01 PM
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Not that it has ever has or ever will soil my hands, but how did you get the 2/c spot to print convert to process and use the solid process plate as the spot?
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11-04-2004, 07:16 PM
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Ahh..... thought you would never ask :lol:
1. First opent the document to place the eps into and go to (I amy miss quote because I'm at home not at work) "commercial printing tools" in the menu and select "process + spot" colors.
2. Create a New spot color... making sure you define it exactly as the colors in the .eps file you want to place.
3. Once established (spot color) then "place picture from file" and import the .eps graphic.
That's when Publisher will recognize the PMS spot color in the eps file.
I discovered this by accident, months after we were on the phone with M$ tech supositories and they gave up.
Does that answer the question? :?
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11-04-2004, 09:28 PM
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I think a big part of the problem is that the audience that M$ Punisher appeals to is obviously not computer savy in the way that most of us are, so in addition to the somewhat inflexible Publisher format, you add exaggerations of the problems we've always had; bad color spaces, True Type fonts with artificial Bold and Italics applied which are not supplied with the job, missing graphics or graphics with web/screen resolutions, documents in reader spreads, etc. Since we have trouble educating "real" designers, you know there is NO hope of trying to get a layman to put together a file right. It'd be nice if Microsoft would put develop some tools to make it easier to make publisher files output better. Maybe a service bureau version with more advanced tracking/kerning, imposition and color tools.
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11-04-2004, 10:26 PM
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microsoft should not of put something like publisher out on the market in the first place. They are not experienced with this kind of stuff, and they should never be allowed to do it anymore, i think they should discontinue publisher and spend there money/man power on there pathetic operating systems!
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06-22-2005, 01:39 PM
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If you have to work with Pub files and have a problem, try posting in microsoft.public.publisher.prepress
They should be able to answer most questions. Publisher also offers free copies and support to printers.
Mike
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06-23-2005, 02:18 PM
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Holy ancient threads Batman! 8O
Yeah, I used to go to that newsgroup a lonnnnng time ago, before the PSPP option was available from M$. Man, it was quite the flame-fest too! Good times. 8)
If you're a printer, sign up for PSPP, it's free and you won't even have to pay M$ for their wonderful app.
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