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Old 02-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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10.3.9 is the current liveable OSX standard?

I was curious where everyone is in the OSX upgrade frenzy.

We have been using - and have been very happy with - 10.3.9 and
I'm noticing that many have it listed as the operating system of choice in their signatures in this forum.

I imagine that versions of OSX higher than 10.3.9 are less compatable with many brands of software out there. I remember reading that 10.4.x or above (essentially TIGER ) renders a PMg4 Dual Mirror unable to boot into OS9 anymore. But that may be a reference to loosing Classic support instead of a true dual boot machine. We already know Apple is not fond of keeping OS9 running any longer.

Dual booting for Os9 work seems to work well for us for redos of old jobs ...what OSX does your shop use? And have you had disasters upgrading too fast?

This ought to be interesting....
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:48 PM
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10.4.8 here. I keep a DP 800 G4 as a dual boot box as well, but don't need to use it much anymore.
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I'm ugrading to Tiger at the office asap, I have it at home and love it. Panther has issues with certains printers, so Minolta we just got I can't connect to. It's either drop back to Jaguar or upgrade to Tiger.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
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10.4.8 on 3 machines for me, 2 of which are dual 800 mirror door. I don't think it renders them unbootable in OS9, becasue I haven't booted into OS 9 in years. Classic runs fine on all of the aforementioned computers.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:40 PM
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Tiger on 11 Macs and one with Panther that will get switched to Tiger as soon as I find time.

As soon as Leopard comes out, I'll upgrade mine and probably very soon others too.

I have not run into application that will not run under Tiger, actually most of them recommend Tiger anyway.
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: 10.3.9 is the current liveable OSX standard?

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I was curious where everyone is in the OSX upgrade frenzy.

We have been using - and have been very happy with - 10.3.9 and
I'm noticing that many have it listed as the operating system of choice in their signatures in this forum.

I imagine that versions of OSX higher than 10.3.9 are less compatable with many brands of software out there. I remember reading that 10.4.x or above (essentially TIGER ) renders a PMg4 Dual Mirror unable to boot into OS9 anymore. But that may be a reference to loosing Classic support instead of a true dual boot machine. We already know Apple is not fond of keeping OS9 running any longer.

Dual booting for Os9 work seems to work well for us for redos of old jobs ...what OSX does your shop use? And have you had disasters upgrading too fast?

This ought to be interesting....
I have always said that there is no compelling reason to upgrade to Tiger from Panther, only upgrading as software requires. Interestingly, I'd say we have 11 out of 12 Macs running Tiger. So, it's actually becoming more and more that Tiger is the minimum requirements. Quark 7 is one example. Tiger doesn't void Classic support. I have G5s running Tiger and Classic. It's Intel Macs that void Classic support (and Tiger is what comes on the Intel Macs). If you were Apple, would you still want to support OS9? How long has OS X been out now, 8 years? Upgrading too fast? Tiger is on revision 8. Leopard will be out within the next 3 months. I think they pretty much have any bugs worked out now.

I'd say, if you are happy with Panther, and software isn't dictating that you upgrade, then don't.
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:39 AM
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I suppose my thing is that an operating system upgrade (assuming it was stable previously enough for production) is like buying the newest greatest bottled water. Rarely does it offer real production advantages anymore. With each apple produced since 2003 with gigabit networking SMB share access, TCP native, (goodbye appletalk and riddence!) wireless support, file vault available, access restrictions, large disk support, DVD burners and now USB 2.0 added ...what else do you need?Unless you want to upload your Itune Ipod files and Ichat about them listening to an Idvd or watch an Imovie while you play Ilife at work amongst your dashboard widgets and print your Iphotos on company I-time lol :wink: . Sadly, more often than not, I've seen operating system 'upgrades' turn into catastrophies for production teams in the past. 10.1.x was a prime example...or WIN95 over WIN3.1 what a disaster those were. Lost printers, lost files (evil 1st versions of Panther would eat external drives for lunch while upgrading in case weve forgotten that nugget) and so on.

I would agree that TIGER wouldnt be as bad of a step as past upgrades but so far we havent seen any reason to load up on it b/c Panther is working still. Additionally the PMg4 Dual mirrors are still running (4yrs old) and soon they will start dying off and I'll need G5s or whatnot. At that point I wont be installing 10.3.9 any longer.

I'd be "all in" on new systems immediately if Adobe would get off the stick and produce the universal binary for Tiger machines running Intel chips sets. And moreover - if Tiger would run on a hand-built PC system designed for graphic arts - now there's a reason to roll up into something newer. It's odd to me that XP can run on on an intel mac but not the other way around. Come on SteveJ. - loosen up a little.

Besides - being on a fiscally tight budget keeps us a step behind anyway.

R.O.I. always is a concern, so spending money is only done when it can be reclaimed in production.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:38 AM
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10.4.8 on 24 Macs

" It's odd to me that XP can run on on an intel mac but not the other way around. Come on SteveJ. - loosen up a little. "

yea I wish, but no one would buy an Apple computer if they could just get the OS...they tried that already
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:05 PM
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10.3.9 is the current liveable OSX standard?
10.4.X is very livable and it also is THE standard now. Panther is still okay but I'd go with Tiger from now on.
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