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harofreak00 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 01:28 PM

ever since we got our new CTP system, things have been changing.

we previously were having a powermac running os7.5 running the imagesetter and heidelberg scanner

the powermac is out, and the imagesetter is being sold, but we are keeping the scanner, because it worked great.

they were both run off of scsi, computer to the scanner and scanner to the imagesetter, with the scsi id of 2 on the scanner.

now the scanner is soley hooked up to the os 9 machine, and it doesnt recognize it. I have changed the id to 0, 1, 2, nothing works...

where in os9 can i check ports and such, and do i need a terminator on the port that originally went from the scanner to the imagesetter

tbJAMMIN · #2 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 01:45 PM

You most likely will need to put a terminator on the port that went to the imagesetter. the SCSI ID should be ok on 2, but sometimes you just have to try it a couple of ways before it will get recognized. I believe the technical term for that is SCSI Voodoo.

Just make sure you turn off power to everything when changing ID's or terminations.

NutCase · #3 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 01:48 PM

If the connection is going from the mac to the scanner, the now empty port on your scanner will need a terminator on it.

The scanner might have a switch on the back to turn on/off termination so you can don't need to put on the terminator block. If it does, flip that and see if it helps. You might need to try putting the cable on the other port on the scanner too.

You can leave the ID at 2... or try 3, 4, 5... it's called SCSI voodoo for a reason

You can use Apple System Profiler (under the apple menu usually) to check out what devices are attached to your Mac.

Might also like to download a copy of good old SCSI Probe and drop it in your control panels. All it will do it let you know if the computer is seeing your scannner (I suspect the apple app will accomplish the same thing though)

harofreak00 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 02:08 PM

the scsi port on the back of scanner that goes to the computer is the HUGE type, and there was a terminator there originally. the scsi port that went to the imagesetter is the smaller parallel port style, which i do not have a terminator for. do they make male to male parallel port?

does it matter what port the terminator is on?

NutCase · #5 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 02:24 PM

I don't remember the speeds of the various SCSI flavors anymore but I think the worst that can happen is the data going from the scanner to the computer will be slower when using one port vs. the other.... or maybe not.... it depends on the ports and the scanner.

Anyway, use whatever cables, adapters and terminators you have to get the scanner connected to your mac and don't worry about which of the two ports has the terminator.

harofreak00 · #6 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 02:27 PM

the port on the back of the os7 machine looks to be a parallel port... and it worked

the port on the back of the os9 machine also looks to be a parallel port, but it does not work

i have the system hooked up EXACTLY like it was to the os7 machine right, now and SCSI PROBE does not see it, it only sees the CPU

would the printer port of the os7 machine have more capabilities than the os 9 machine?

do i need a SCSI port on the G4 running os9.2

NutCase · #7 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 02:57 PM

now you have me confused....

where's this printer port coming from?
I thought you already had scsi on the os 9 machine?

So this OS 9 machine you have is a G4 with a SCSI card? Do you have the drivers installed for the scsi card?

In SCSI Probe, there's a popup menu towards the top of the window to select Bus 0 or Bus 1 if I remember correctly. Your internal stuff will be on 0 and external on 1 I think..... check both busses. Your scsi card and scanner should show up on one or the other of the busses. Your scsi card should show up in apple system profiler.

This page http://www.paralan.com/sediff.html has a few pictures of scsi connectors.

Your OS 7 machine had the type 3 connector on the back right? What kind of connector does your OS 9 machine have? And your heidelberg scanner has which type?

Joe · #8 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by harofreak00

the port on the back of the os7 machine looks to be a parallel port... and it worked

the port on the back of the os9 machine also looks to be a parallel port, but it does not work

i have the system hooked up EXACTLY like it was to the os7 machine right, now and SCSI PROBE does not see it, it only sees the CPU

would the printer port of the os7 machine have more capabilities than the os 9 machine?

do i need a SCSI port on the G4 running os9.2

Macs do not have parallel printer ports. That is a SCSI connector.

So you have to have a SCSI cable going from the OS 9 mac to the scanner and then the scanner either has to be terminated by either a hardware terminator or by a switch on it that terminates it. With SCSI Probe you should at least be able to see the SCSI card even without the scanner connected.. If not, either you don't have the drivers installed or it is not working.

harofreak00 · #9 (**permalink**) 02-17-2006, 08:07 AM

the os7 machine is a powermac 8500 with 1 SCSI: (DB-25) port

the os9 machine is a g4 with no SCSI ports

all this according to http://www.everymac.com/systems/index.html

so i guess this means that the g4 needs to have a SCSI card added.. this should work http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...83040?n=172282

Joe · #10 (**permalink**) 02-17-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by harofreak00

the os9 machine is a g4 with no SCSI ports

Well, I think it's safe to assume it won't work without a SCSI card in it.

What model Mac is the OS9 Mac? G3? G4? Something else? As long it has a PCI expansion slot you should be good to go.