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Old 07-06-2005, 08:20 AM
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The REAL first american settlers....

Human footprints discovered beside an ancient Mexican lake have been dated to 40,000 years ago. If the finding survives the controversy it is bound to stir up, it means that humans must have moved into the New World at least 30,000 years earlier than previously thought.

?If true, this would completely change our view of how and when the Americas were first colonised,? says Chris Stringer, head of human origins at the Natural History Museum in London, UK. But like several US experts, he is reserving judgement until the dates can be independently confirmed.

The discovery was made by an international team led by Silvia Gonzalez, a geoarchaeologist at Liverpool John Moores University in the UK. She found the fossilised footprints in 2003 in a quarry near the city of Puebla, 100 kilometres southeast of Mexico City. ?I walked 1 metre and started to see them,? Gonzalez says. ?It felt like a thunderbolt.?

In just two days, Gonzalez and her colleagues found hundreds of human and animal footprints preserved in a layer of ash from a nearby volcano. The footprints were made along the shore of a lake and were submerged after the water level rose, preserving them under sediments.

?They are unmistakably human footprints,? says team member Matthew Bennett at Bournemouth University in the UK. ?They meet all the criteria that were set up after the Laetoli prints were found [in Tanzania in 1976].? The sizes suggests that about one-third of them were made by children.

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But when were they made? It has taken the team two years, using a panoply of high-tech dating techniques, to determine that the prints are about 40,000 years old.

The key date came from shells in the lake sediments, which the team carbon-dated to 38,000 years ago. Sand grains baked into the ash and dated using optically stimulated luminescence corroborated the finding.

The researchers also used argon-argon, uranium series and electron spin resonance techniques to date the layers. ?The footprints are clearly older than 38,000 years,? says team member Tom Higham of the carbon-dating lab at the University of Oxford, US.

The conventional view is that humans arrived in the Americas via Beringia around 11,000 years ago, when a land bridge became available between Siberia and Alaska. There have been claims about earlier waves of settlers, who must have made the crossing over water, based mainly on sites with signs of habitation dated up to 40,000 years ago, but these claims have drawn intense criticism.

?Accurate and reproducible?

Gonzalez and her team expect the same. ?This will be incredibly controversial, there?s no doubt about that,? Higham says. They invite other researchers to scrutinise their findings, due to be published in the journal Quaternary Science Review.

?We have done a year of solid work to make sure it?s accurate and reproducible,? Higham stresses.

How people got to Mexico 40 millennia ago is a matter for speculation. Bennett suspects that they migrated along the Pacific coasts of Asia and North America. But when it comes to the dates and footprints, he says, ?those are not speculation at all".

The footprints remain where they were found. The team has used laser scans and rapid prototyping equipment to create highly accurate three-dimensional copies, accurate to a fraction of a millimetre, which can be viewed at the Royal Society's Summer Exhibition in London, UK, which ends on 7 July.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:03 AM
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It can't be true!!

Everyone knows that before 1492, the earth was flat.
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It can't be true!!

Everyone knows that before 1492, the earth was flat.
LOL!!! You are so wrong, everybody knows aliens transplanted them.

Interesting article. Where did you find it? I actually got my degree in Native American Studies and have read lots of the theories on it. I'd be interested on reading more about this.
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I thought it was mighty interesting myself....

Jalan, >> http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7627
btw: nice threads yer monkey has on.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:48 AM
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Very interesting. Thanks for the link.

My Gorilla is my "Barbie". I dress him up for certain ocassions. It's baseball season, so he's all in his team spirit garbs.
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no prob. Who's he rootin' fer this year? Hopefully the Mets..... :wink:
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I do like the Mets, but he's cheering for the Twins. Tough division this year.
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Hey the the Twins are OK. Good team to pull fer. As long as you didn't say "The Damn Yankees">>> :wink:

I think that was an 80's hair band, not a baseball team. :lol:
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I grew up with the Twins while in Minnesota. Was there during their 1987 and 1991 World Series. That was exciting.
I now cheer for the Mariners too, not much to cheer for, but they are local to me. Was fun watching them win 116 games a few years back.
I actually saw the Mets play the Mariners out here. Too bad for the sweep, that was really odd.
I prefer the National League even tho I grew up American. It's more fun to watch the pitchers bat. I wish they'd go back to that.

I guess we sorta got off topic eh? Yeah! Think they'll find a baseball at the site they have those footprints? :wink:
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I prefer to see the pitchers hit as well, I grew up playing ball and was always either pitching or playing third base and I can't imagine having someone HIT for me, that is the best part of baseball, I just went out to the cages Friday last week and hit, its been about a year since I last hit and damn probably 12-14 years since I last played. Man it felt good to hit, I can still switch hit too. Sure wish I was still a kid and could play ball every weekend. Maybe I will go find a softball team to join.......
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