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08-08-2007, 01:47 PM
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Plating Fails to Start..
(( Not sure if this should go in here or Computer to Plate. Mods please move if this is incorrect. ))
Our platemaker is trying to plate a 6up layout and receives the following error: ( he has tried outputting them all and one at a time, same results )
being the Trendsetter spits the plate back out.
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Created process for Signature 1 Surface A of imposition plan Planeta Info Aug 8, 2007 5:04:18 PM
Process Planeta.150lpi:Planeta:[1 Separation] submitted. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:04:18 PM
Created a new process with identifier 58583. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:04:18 PM
Job ticket submitted for processing. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:04:20 PM
Screening Information: Colorant: PANTONE 527 C, Screen System:
Creosettes, Dot Shape: Round-Square, Angle/Pattern: 45, Ruling/Feature Size: 150, Maxtone Highlight: 1, Maxtone Shadow: 1. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:04:28 PM
The Rip has reported the following: %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: image ]%%
Warning Aug 8, 2007 5:20:38 PM
An error occurred While RIPing the Task Error Aug 8, 2007 5:20:39 PM
Failed to Output PANTONE 527 C. Error Aug 8, 2007 5:20:40 PM
The Rip has reported the following: %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
Warning Aug 8, 2007 5:20:40 PM
An error occurred While RIPing the Task Error Aug 8, 2007 5:20:40 PM
The Rip has reported the following: %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
Warning Aug 8, 2007 5:20:40 PM
An error occurred While RIPing the Task Error Aug 8, 2007 5:20:46 PM
An error occurred While RIPing the Task Error Aug 8, 2007 5:20:48 PM
Output has finished. It was queued for 0.8 seconds and active for 983.7 seconds. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:20:49 PM
Job ticket: processing has completed. Info Aug 8, 2007 5:20:49 PM
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The layout was created using Pandora v2.8.0 (build 515)
I can only recall one other time we had the Trendsetter 800 II Quantium
not plate a layout and it was with an 18 up Cig pack layout. I was not there to see how it was resolved and the person who was is on Holidays for another 4 days.
The file within the layout is a De-screened DCS file, 4 colours (3 spots and Black)
Placed in Quark 6.5 and output to a Postscript.
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Run through Workshop and Virtual Proofed .
All looks and Seps fine.
(no major errors when refined)
I have re done a layout and received the same results when trying to plate this job.
Perhaps creating an entirely new job folder and re running the file through workshop again ?
Any Ideas ??
Thanks
C2C
Last edited by C2C : 08-08-2007 at 01:49 PM.
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08-08-2007, 02:09 PM
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Any thought to generating 1 bit tiffs and then queing them to the plater??
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08-08-2007, 02:21 PM
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Excuse my lack of knowledge but I havent a clue how to do so
Care to elaborate on How to do so and Why ?
My expertise goes as far as: Heres the file from the scanner. Its a DCS file. You know what to do.
(then place in Quark, Postscript, run through Workshop, Proof then Layout)
I have given thought to opening the DCS in Photoshop, saving as a PSD and placing this in Illy / dropping in our dieline, Save as EPS / Run through WorkShop / V Proof / Layout. but the file is over a year old and Im trying not to mess with it *yet*
Thank you
C2C
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08-08-2007, 02:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C2C
Excuse my lack of knowledge but I havent a clue how to do so
Care to elaborate on How to do so and Why ?
My expertise goes as far as: Heres the file from the scanner. Its a DCS file. You know what to do.
(then place in Quark, Postscript, run through Workshop, Proof then Layout)
I have given thought to opening the DCS in Photoshop, saving as a PSD and placing this in Illy / dropping in our dieline, Save as EPS / Run through WorkShop / V Proof / Layout. but the file is over a year old and Im trying not to mess with it *yet*
Thank you
C2C
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I helped set up the process templates during startup assistance, but here's the gist of it:
You'll need to make a new process template (duplicate your normal one?) and change the FILE FORMAT portion to:
LZW
Advanced Tiff tags
(I appologize if this is incomplete or too vague, we set this up w/ help of Creo tech and haven't had to dickaround with it)
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08-08-2007, 02:49 PM
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Clueless
Are you talking within Workshop dupe the process template ? and then change those mentioned settings?
If so I have never been erm... allowed to change ANY settings.
In fact, I dont think anyone here knows how to do so correctly either, The 'Creo Man' gets to come in if it needs to be altered, which has not occured since this was installed (2? years ago, before I started here anyhow)
Ive been told not even to open them in fear something may get changed
(sometimes I feel so clueless..., and the more I ask WHY are these settings setup this way and WHAT do they do? the more I get : I dont know, they were setup by Creo )
Thanks for take the time to reply tho!
Ill just tell them to skip it since we cant plate it :P and let the Lead Hand call someone when she gets back from VAC.
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08-08-2007, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C2C
Clueless
Are you talking within Workshop dupe the process template ? and then change those mentioned settings?
If so I have never been erm... allowed to change ANY settings.
In fact, I dont think anyone here knows how to do so correctly either, The 'Creo Man' gets to come in if it needs to be altered, which has not occured since this was installed (2? years ago, before I started here anyhow)
Ive been told not even to open them in fear something may get changed
(sometimes I feel so clueless..., and the more I ask WHY are these settings setup this way and WHAT do they do? the more I get : I dont know, they were setup by Creo )
Thanks for take the time to reply tho!
Ill just tell them to skip it since we cant plate it :P and let the Lead Hand call someone when she gets back from VAC.
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Are you talking within Workshop dupe the process template ? and then change those mentioned settings? - YES
FYI:
We "limit" access here, just 3 of us that have the privilledge level of changing JTPs... but we allow all operators to change settings on the per-job basis. This made for a lot more training and stuff, but we're able to handle more junk on the fly.
GOOD LUCK!!!
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08-08-2007, 02:59 PM
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one day Im sure someone will clue in that myself and others need to understand more then:
run this refine for this type of file
and make sure you VP your work.
Thanks .
Im sure someone will figure it out.
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08-09-2007, 08:04 AM
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You're good people, C2C.
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08-13-2007, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by born2print
Are you talking within Workshop dupe the process template ? and then change those mentioned settings? - YES
FYI:
We "limit" access here, just 3 of us that have the privilledge level of changing JTPs... but we allow all operators to change settings on the per-job basis. This made for a lot more training and stuff, but we're able to handle more junk on the fly.
GOOD LUCK!!!
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born2print
Could you explain how you set up your limited access?
I've been wanting to do this.
C2C
Sorry to hijack your thread.
For me Limitcheck errors have allways been very complex vector files. (that damn pattern feature in Illustrator) Usually I'm able to simplify the file but it sounds like your dealing with a different animal. Have you resolved it yet?
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08-13-2007, 10:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PreStressed
born2print
Could you explain how you set up your limited access?
I've been wanting to do this.
C2C
Sorry to hijack your thread.
For me Limitcheck errors have allways been very complex vector files. (that damn pattern feature in Illustrator) Usually I'm able to simplify the file but it sounds like your dealing with a different animal. Have you resolved it yet?
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Can't remember the exact proceedure, Kodak tech did it during startup, but we have 2 different levels and keep others out w/ different ID and password. Should be a quick answer from support as to the proceedure to do it.
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