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Old 05-15-2006, 10:11 AM
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Yeah, I appreciate the help (been there....), But if I can suck it into Illustrator, I can trap it. Thanks though.

So far, that's my Lead.. EVO just doesn't make any sense to me (I mean prinergy as a whole, not just the stripped down POS version), and frankly, I've never been impressed w/ that RIP. The nail in the coffin was the costs at 5-years out (not counting major version upgrades)... $12K more to own that box than the Rampage.

... And a lot of it too, is the work here, both what it is, and how it comes in? I know the boys at Rampage from years past, they haven't changed, and they're good people. Kodak/Creo's gotten to be too much of a money/politics game (even for a monkey looking for support), frankly, I don't care how good they all think they are. They aren't all that good, I've shown more than one of them how to do their job (the bumpkins in the field, and back at Burnaby), and it's the BS that goes along w/ everything, that... I just don't have the time to deal w/. In my past life, my job was dealing w/ that BS, because the operator's were too busy cranking out the files. I'm wearing all the hats now, and just want a RIP that works. That's something I always liked about Rampage back when I had it (v.6 --> 8 ). Sure, we had issue's (doesn't trap PMS's well - luminosity never did well there), but that was a packaging shop. I'm commercial now, and just need something to chew through the pages while I'm futzing w/ the next job. More importantly, how the vendor handles those issue's, is what matters to me. The folks at Rampage understand printing - I've gotten same-day bug fixes several times from them. You can't beat that with a stick. Even a really big one.

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Old 05-15-2006, 10:24 AM
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Huh...

Well, I can say that Evo is not POS and neither is Prinergy. You obviously have had a very different experience with it. I have two customers that use Prinergy, one "full blown" Prinergy 3 and one that uses Evo. Both are the backbone for their entire workflow, conventional offset, digital color and digital black and white. Wtih the level of automation at the larger shop, operators just "dump" things into Prinergy and the jobs are off and running.

RAMPage is a good system, but I would not put it ahead of Evo or Prinergy. It all depends on how you work within the system.
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:30 AM
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It all depends on how you work within the system.
Agreed.
I played around w/ Araxi. You can keep it.

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What about Araxi?
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I completely understand. This business has become so volatile and evolves so quickly now, it's hard to justify spending a huge amount of money on hardware/software without it becoming obsolete in under 5 years and at the same time making a profit. You've also got some good points about the service too. I don't blame you one bit.
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:48 AM
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What about Araxi?
That's what Prinergy was called in Beta between versions 2 and 3. Since then, they've just muddied the water, and changed the licensing to increase revenue. I've played w/ the current iteration of the RIP a few times at "Henrietta Technical College", and haven't seen anything that changes my mind from a few years ago, when I played w/ Araxi.

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