Drop shadows from indesign

[SugarBear]

Does anybody have a solution for ripping drop shadows created from Indesign?
When any file with drop shadows created in Indesign rips on my brisque it comes out as a black box.My work around is to delete all linework fom my indesign file and save all images,shadows, gradations-export an eps and rasterize in photoshop as 1 full image and restrip back into position under all the linework in Indesign.

Any suggestions??

Running Brisque impose v. 4.1.82

Thnx
Bear

[gig0]

have you tried checking off .ps overprint under color handling?

[SugarBear]

yes i do that with simple shadows but when I have multi layered files with different transparencies it doesn't always work. I adjust the transparency flattening settings to high. I also have to adjust layer heirarchy.
I don't think there is a sure fire way other than to manipulate as I go.

Thnx
Bear

[gig0]

It's hard to say without seeing the file. Are there spot colors being used? Check your separations preview. A big problem I've been noticing is multiple overlapping spot colors using transparency. Adobe even recommends not doing this and we've bounced jobs back to the designer because of it.

[ScannLino]

In Brisque version 5 turn on input overprint RIP/OTHER/OVERPRINT Input Overprint

[PrepressRabbit]

Are you ripping ps or pdf? What settings are you using for your transparency flattening in Indesign?
It has been a while since we were on version 4, but it mostly worked fine. We had default settings for export/printing that had 100% vector, 2400dpi line art & text resolution. Then we ripped as everybody else says with ps o/p on. If ps didn't work we use pdf.

[mc_hristel]

I know this is a problem in Brisque 4. Drop shadows done in Illustrator do the same thing. Rasterizing everything in Photoshop is the best solution I know of, but if you have spot colors you are screwed doing his. :cry: Have you seen fat type yet where the type gets "chunky" when it overlaps the transparency?

Some things you can try or check would be:

-Make sure your output from InDesign is ASCII, not Binary.
-Like you are doing, set transparency flattening to high.
And I always print to a file and drag the .ps to the brisque rather than printing directly. When I have pdf's, I do a save as, and save it as a .ps rather than printing or dragging the pdf itself. :roll:

Good luck Bear

-MC

[PrepressRabbit]

If you have jagged type where the elements have been converted to raster from Illustrator or Indesign you can rip it with ct to lw res. The only thing we have had be a problem is that sometimes the Brisque does some funky trapping with the raster object/line work for files that are 5c or more. In some instances we have had to run the job with no trapping....How to find out whether your pressman really is good!

[AlanThompson]

Bear, it looks like you have some good suggestions here. I have gone through the same issues! The issue with transparency coming through InDesign is Rip Dependent. Meaning you may want to try to let the rip do the flatening and not Indesign. What works for me is to export the InDesign file as a press ready PDF 1.4 (you will notice that the flatening feature is grayed out) The 1.4 PDF is UNflattened. Drop the UNflattened PDF in your rip. Let your rip flaten it. I have never used the Brisque rip, but my Nexus rip handles transpariency issues very good. Let us know how it turns out. Alan Thompson

[SugarBear]

Thanks for all the replies,

I've tried most of the suggestions in combination you guys posted and it is trial and error depending on the job. Some things work while others don't,
then the next job comes in , the same thing won't work and the things that that didn't work will work. AAARRRGHHHHHH!!!
OK I got that out.

But there are suggestions I haven't tried and will do so!!!

Thanks a whole lot and I will keep you guys posted :lol: