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Old 12-16-2005, 02:50 PM
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Please RIP this duotone!

http://www.prepressforums.com/module...rry/14.eps.sit

Can anyone get this duotone to RIP correctly on a Brisque or PSM when placed in InDesign CS2? I've tried everything - left as is, tried multichannel DCS, .PSD format - nothing works. The yellow and gray get mixed up in the ripped CTs. The llama, which should be gray, turns yellow and everything that is supposed to be yellow turns gray.

The crazy thing is that if I place the duotone in Quark 6, it will rip fine. Also rips fine if i don't place it in anything and just rip the EPS as is! I'm used to using ID to solve problems that Quark can't handle, not the other way around.

Wait, it gets weirder: Save out the duotone curve. Duplicate the image. Change the duplicate back to Grayscale, then load the duotone curve and it looks completely different in Photoshop!

The file is coming from a big-time art school, so no surprise that it has problems, but I can't seem to get around this one. My last resort will be to convert the entire job to Cyan and Magenta, but I hate admitting defeat.

Thanks for any experimentation!
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:28 PM
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Granted, I don't run the same rip as you, but I placed this file into IDCS2 and sent it
to the rip and it looked fine (HQ SW 5.3). I also tried your test of saving the duotone
curve out, converting to greyscale, and reloading it, and that seemed to work fine
too. Just for kicks, I rip'ed that one too and it worked fine. That was with Photoshop 7.

I impose almost all of my work in IDCS2 and rip to CtP direct, no in-rip software here.
I'm not sure what to tell you. Hopefully someone with a more comperable set up will
be able to duplicate your problem. I'm going home soon, but I could post a pre-sep'ed
pdf for you if you'd like. I'll check back in just before I leave (about 10 minutes).
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:33 PM
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Thanks - don't really need the presepped PDF, though - I can get that to work fine.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:07 AM
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This one placed in IDCS1 and ripped through rampage
http://www.prepressforums.com/module...screendump.pdf
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:42 AM
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Ripped fiine for me, Brisque 5 and Indesign cs and cs2.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:03 AM
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Worked fine in Nexus 7.5. Did you try to run it as seps, then combine at the brisque?
We used tp run brisque, glad it's gone - give me a separated workflow any day.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:17 AM
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Dan, worked fine on my end in CS2. Even distilled fine.

I noticed you saved it with mac preview. Have you tried saving it with a tiff preview using ASCII byte order instead of binary?
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:08 AM
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Same as you on PSM 7, I wonder if it would work on version 8
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:17 AM
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Thanks for all the test rips, everyone. We ultimately just merged the spot colors into 2 process plates to get the job out the door.
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