Multiply Layers from Photoshop don't multiply in InDesign

[Mungo]

Ah yes.. Used to do heaps of this sort of work but had the luxury of knowing what the hairy pic was going onto so I could make up a image with the bground in it. I love prepress....

[kl3]

hi all, especially dimitri.

Am following this discussion with interest, but I don't understand the last bit about overprint.

What did you mean " when you have to depach a person with fuzzy hair, you could have one layer of the hair set to overprint and the normal layer underneath would have all the rest, but at the hair section maybe a few pixels (soft) of the layermask" ?

I do not understand.
how do you set overprint in photoshop?

karin

[dimitri]

hi karin, don't know if i explain it right, but i try again.

when you want a more realistic depach, especially for the hair, you would take the outsidepart of the hair and multiply it with the background. when the person was photographed on a withe backdrop, what happens with most model shots, the hair will naturally mix with the background colour.

if you put the person now over another colour, you multiply just the end part, obviously very soft, so the hair mixes with the background.

when you have for example a mens arm with hair, i depach the arm straight, as the hair is most likely to soft. afterwards i paint with a small hairbrush some hair in again. i do this on another layer, maybe put the ocapcaty a bit back and multyply.

hope that helps, cheers

[kl3]

thanks, dimitri

yes, now I understand, and I think it's a brilliant idea.
thank you.

maybe you can help me with another thing: I am trying to figure out how to change the shape of a paintbrush. I have seen it done, but I can't seem to do it myself.

k

[dimitri]

hi karin,

it is fairly easy to make a paintbrush. just make a new layer in photoshop (transparent), draw something (preferable with a hard edge) and then make a selection from this layer.

now go in the menue, edit -> define brush - done. happy painting

alternativly, type in google "photoshop paint brushes" and you will find approx. 3.4 million brushes and brushsets ready to download.

cheers, dimitri

[cari]

Just replying to this issue from Dimitri.

This has been a problem since early days of Photoshop import support in InDesign. It is easily replicated:

Create photoshop doc with layer and layermask that generates transparency. Then apply a drop shadow (black) with Multiply blend mode.

Place in InDesign over 100% Cyan background...
Now look at the Colour seps :-) The multiply works like 'opacity' not 'multiply'...

Now run same test without the drop shadow and apply this in InDesign and check the colour seps: The multiply works as an overprint.

:-)

[dimitri]

hi cari, that's very nice, but does not really hit the target.

my problem is that when i have a PSD file with several layers, and one of them have multiply (no layer effect - dropshadows etc...), and i import that to indesign, the one layer with the multiply setting does not multiply with the background.

someone here gave me a good tip, that you can open the psd file in illu, preserve the layers and then import the illu file into indi, it will work. and it does, i tryed.
just for a weekly fashion catalouge with plenty of images and several corrections, not a good workflow.

btw, are you still in perth, i moved to sydney allready.

cheers, dimitri

[cari]

I don't think InDesign supports blends from Photoshop. Can't find the doco for it presently.