Illustrator EPS's Separate into 2

[Kevinr]

Hi everyone,
I am importing (File, Place) a grayscale tiff into IllustratorCS. Then I add type colored 0,0,0,100. Then I send it composite to my Rip and I get two plates. One with the type and one with the tiff. Any ideas how I can get this all to show up on one plate?

Thanks,

Kevin

[seetomtype]

Have you tried to apply the same color to your tiff that you are using on
your type? I think that'll cure it.

[Kevinr]

Yes, I deleted all unused colors except black, white and registration.

I double checked my tiff in Photoshop, no layers, no compression.

I was able to get it to rip composite by sending it using "In rip separations", go figure. I have about 35 ads I'm building and putting into a newspaper. If this is the only way I can get them to rip it will be a long day.

Thanks,
Kevin

[prepress_brillance_43]

what you have there is a noggin scratcher....

Try to flatten the layers, try to group the text and image and then do a lock all, sounds silly but it has worked for me in the past with other issues... Also you could try a >filter>colors> convert to grayscale on the image, believe me I know it sounds silly but I've seen crazier.

one other thing to try... in your links palette try an embed image. Also look at the link information. The problem may lie within the RIP. That's all I can help with, without having the file and RIP in front of me, let me know what you figure out, though. Good luck.

[JoePixel]

I would try all the above suggestions, try and print/rip as many ways as possible.

I would also try putting the final Illustrator file into a page application like InDesign or Quark if you haven't tried that already.

When you place it into that page app, see if any other colors show up in your color pallette other than the ones you want.

[Kevinr]

Hi again,

I haven't tried what Brandon suggested because I know I can use the In-rip separations function. It will work for black only pages. When I get to pages that contain color I know I will have to try some of these other suggestions.

Thanks for your help. The sweat on my brow is starting to dry.

Kevin

[Sparky]

I think I may have it. I just had this happen to me on a few supplied .eps files that would not hold the color I changed them to.

1. Convert type to outlines
2. Un-Group the resulting font outlines, hell select all and ungroup everything.
3. go back and re-apply the black to everything
4. make test printing separations from Illustrator to your laser printer first in the print dialog you will see if more than one plate will show up

took me 2 days to resolve this with my files.

good luck! :wink:

[Kevinr]

I found the answer. Thank you for all your help. I tried ungrouping everything and changing the colors to something else and then changing them back to black only. It didn't work.

Then I looked more closely at the rip. I had a setting on the rip that would include ripping additional colors, even if there wasn't any. I shut off the setting for any other colors and sent the test file. The test worked. Then I sent an In Design file with the test file placed in it and also a 4/c eps to see if it would separate properly. Success.

The rip setting was fine using Mac OS9 with Illustrator 10 and any page layout program, once I move to OSX and IllustratorCS the setting disrupted the output.

Thanks again.

Kevin

[prepress_brillance_43]

Congrats, thanks for posting the answer back, I know I'll remember in case I ever see a situation that's the same.

[Sparky]

ditto, that's info worth filing away for future reference. 8)