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Old 05-25-2005, 10:51 AM
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MAC > PC conversion troubles

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I have some troubles in using fonts converted from MAC to PC. I'm using Crossfont to convert from MAC to PC format (suit to ttf) and FontLab to convert the font to Type1. The problem is Quark 6 (PC) does not recognize the fonts converted (neither TTF or Type1). It says QuarkXPress cannot find this font on your computer. PostScript Name: NewsGothic-Bold. The Quark document is also from MAC platform. The only (boring and annoying) solution is to replace the fonts manually in Quark. What should I do in conversion process to have fonts (TTF or Type 1, does not matter) thar would be recognized by Quark automatically.

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Old 05-25-2005, 11:13 AM
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Is there some reason that you aren't setting this up on the Mac? If the file
and the fonts are Mac based, then... Or do you not have a Mac to work on?
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:22 PM
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Are you converting the fonts on the Mac or the PC? You could potentially be having trouble when you try to send the files to your PC. We have a recent problem here, when the CSRs copy files from email to the server, it drops the extension. Adding the extension manually corrects the problem.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:55 PM
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> Seetomtype : The whole thing had to be done on PC. No MAC system available... yet...
> Sally : i'm doing the conversion on PC. File copying between MAC and PC is no longer a problem (even the fonts... you know, had to copy resource fork, not data fork, he he...).
I can even use the converted fonts OK on PC, but my problem is that Quark Xpress does not recognize automatically the fonts converted and installed, when opening a document that use these damn fonts !!!
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Old 05-25-2005, 07:02 PM
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For 8 years I have tried using font conversion software. I gave up.

Buy the same font in OpenType format, easy solution, one font, cross compatible, no need to "convert". It even has more "instances" than any T1 or TT font has.

I have sent my PC customers an OpenType version of say Garamond Pro from my Mac to their PC so they could produce a newsletter we print and it came back with no reflow or other issues.

I feel OpenType is the way of the future. So does Adobe to the point that they no longer "support" T1 postscript fonts, and have converted their entire postscript T1 library over to OpenType technology.
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:58 AM
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What convertion encoding method are you using?
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:59 AM
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Re: MAC > PC conversion troubles

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Hi folks!
I have some troubles in using fonts converted from MAC to PC. I'm using Crossfont to convert from MAC to PC format (suit to ttf) and FontLab to convert the font to Type1. The problem is Quark 6 (PC) does not recognize the fonts converted (neither TTF or Type1). It says QuarkXPress cannot find this font on your computer. PostScript Name: NewsGothic-Bold. The Quark document is also from MAC platform. The only (boring and annoying) solution is to replace the fonts manually in Quark. What should I do in conversion process to have fonts (TTF or Type 1, does not matter) thar would be recognized by Quark automatically.

Thanks a lot
Chances are you won't get the PC quark to automatically recognize the converted mac fonts because you are making a "new" font with a different ID number and name than what was originally used in the file. It's a PITA, but I have had this happen to me also. I use Fontogragher (and FontLab on occasion) to do the same thing and we have to manually replace the fonts in the Quark file because of this issue (watch out for reflow! ':evil:' ).

Good luck with this,
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Old 05-27-2005, 06:27 AM
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> Sparky : I cannot impose to my clients to use OpenType. Thanks for you idea anyway. I'll try some experiments with OpenType, T1 and TTF, just for my fun... THX again.

> almaink : sorry, I don't understand exactly your question (convertion encoding method)

> david_maberry : ok. i got the point, but i have succeeded for ONE font (out of 8 ) to convert from MAC to PC (MAC TTF => PC TTF => PC Type1 to be exact ) and that ONE font was recognized by Quark 6 !!! I think Quark rely only on PostScript Name not on other names (FOND, Family, etc) stored inside the font.

For all of you : i'm not an native english speaker so please excuse my mistakes in topic and writing ops:
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:49 AM
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> Sparky : I cannot impose to my clients to use OpenType. Thanks for you idea anyway. I'll try some experiments with OpenType, T1 and TTF, just for my fun... THX again.

> almaink : sorry, I don't understand exactly your question (convertion encoding method)

> david_maberry : ok. i got the point, but i have succeeded for ONE font (out of 8 ) to convert from MAC to PC (MAC TTF => PC TTF => PC Type1 to be exact ) and that ONE font was recognized by Quark 6 !!! I think Quark rely only on PostScript Name not on other names (FOND, Family, etc) stored inside the font.

For all of you : i'm not an native english speaker so please excuse my mistakes in topic and writing ops:

Your english is not so bad, I've seen much worse (from english speaking people no less!!!).
Fonts on a PC from Mac are probably going to be the hardest thing you have to deal with, that's why we don't try to cross platform files here. If it is a PC file, it gets worked on a PC. If it's a Mac file, it gets worked on a Mac.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, good luck,
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Old 05-30-2005, 06:29 AM
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" almaink : sorry, I don't understand exactly your question (conversion encoding method) "

You can convert fonts using different encoding methods, Adobe, Mac and PC. If you don't use the correct method your fonts may not be recognized. Fontographer has the option to choose the encoding method, I have never used Crossfont so I don't know if it also has that option.
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