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05-25-2007, 07:28 AM
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Silver,
My statement was not necessarily for you. Thanks for clearing up your side though, I do have some clients that keep in close touch and therefore do have more infomation.
Regards,
Mark
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05-28-2007, 05:00 AM
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Facts
Hi All,
Facts can be shocking, no appologies.
A forum of the quality of this one attracts the community.
The community appreciates having relevants facts.
The facts are that we have been expreriencing issues with people leaving Dynagram, hence the lack of support.
No bashing on the product, no bashing on people, JUST FACTS.
Support people are no longer there and management has left, that's it.
As Silver claims not to have a close relationship with Dynagram, I claim the same. The thruth is someone receiving monies from Dynagram (as an employee, as a partner, as a Trainer, etc.) will not deliver facts that can be negative.
Everyone has a choice to use and recommend different solutions.
Evryone has a right to freedom of speech.
Everyone has the liberty to believe, or not.
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05-28-2007, 10:42 AM
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I'm not sure what the freedom of speech laws are in Canada where you're posting from. But I do know that here in the States there are limits on freedom of speech. Yelling fire in a crowded theater when there isn't one is not protected speech. There is no "blanket" inherent right to freedom of speech. There is a wide tolerance within the law. But again, there are limits.
With freedom of speech comes responsibility. From responsibility comes discretion. Use the freedom you claim responsibly and with discretion, that's what we're asking.
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05-28-2007, 01:17 PM
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I find it quite telling that someone so vehement an Impostrip supporter should be so concerned at events at Dynagram. And if it's true what mattbeals says about the posts coming from Canada (the home of both developers), perhaps that's even more telling. Freedom of speech? Or thinly veiled desperate attempt at industrial sabbotage?
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05-29-2007, 05:21 AM
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Most amusing.l..
This discussion started out with a publicly reported fact, the GM of Dynagram left the company and with a question as to why that might have happened. Silver who is "close to Dynagram" admits it is true, but does not disclose why, which he claims to know.
It was also raised that some tech support people from the past are no longer there. Silver confirms this is true but says it is "maternity leave" in the case he knows about. He does not respond if others have left or not, something he should know being "close to Dynagram".
Now we have some nut case showing up claiming it is "industrial sabatoge" by some kind of Canadian conspiracy! What is going on here? Does anyone actually have some useful information? Or something intelligent to say?
AstroBobbit and Silver are from the UK what does that mean? On top of it apparently saying anything is like yelling "fire in a crowded theater", coming from Washington, the former home of Scenic Soft. The conspiracy theories could be endless.
Grow up children and post with some content or forever hold your piece...
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05-29-2007, 07:03 AM
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I believe that this could all be cleared up quite easily if everyone in this thread would identify who they are and who they work for, especially since the direct question was asked. Let me paraphrase Sister Rose Marie OLPH School circa 1982 "If you are willing to type it, why not be willing to put your name on it. If not, than maybe you should not type it."
John "Santa" Santangelo
EVP Sales and Marketing
H&S Graphics, a Santangelo Printing Co
196 Garibaldi Ave
Lodi, NJ 07644
www.h-sgraphics.com
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05-29-2007, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by santa
I believe that this could all be cleared up quite easily if everyone in this thread would identify who they are and who they work for, especially since the direct question was asked. Let me paraphrase Sister Rose Marie OLPH School circa 1982 "If you are willing to type it, why not be willing to put your name on it. If not, than maybe you should not type it."
John "Santa" Santangelo
EVP Sales and Marketing
H&S Graphics, a Santangelo Printing Co
196 Garibaldi Ave
Lodi, NJ 07644
www.h-sgraphics.com
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Wise words well spoken.
Brandon Miller
Prepress Manager
The Finishing & Mailing Center
611 Fabrication St.
Dallas, Tx 75212
www.mailingcenter.net
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05-29-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by santa
I believe that this could all be cleared up quite easily if everyone in this thread would identify who they are and who they work for, especially since the direct question was asked. Let me paraphrase Sister Rose Marie OLPH School circa 1982 "If you are willing to type it, why not be willing to put your name on it. If not, than maybe you should not type it."
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As usual, Sister Rose Marie is right again.
And John is right too. It's not that hard to disclose who you are and who you work for....I am actually proud of my company and products.
Regards,
Mark
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05-29-2007, 11:20 AM
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i think it can best be cleared up by answering this: who cares that tracey-lee left or for what reason? ive got a million conspiracy theories more compelling than this one. not exactly the grassy knoll.
any info i read online i take with a grain of salt anyway (no offense to this board, it is loaded with great info and i love using it every day).
i say god bless her and all her bikes.
cr
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08-14-2007, 03:16 AM
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Well, hello...
Well hello Tracey-Lee, you silver tongue... you might have been fooling them a long time, but you have not fooled me yet.
Last edited by Ninja Turle : 08-14-2007 at 03:19 AM.
Reason: error in spelling
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