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Old 05-29-2007, 02:00 AM
yogesh21154 yogesh21154 is offline
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CTcP I am here to answer..

Dear friends... i have been working on CP project for last one year and dd lots of homework on many CTP manufacturers and their different technology...

but if i compare with present price of Thermal/Violet plates with Ps plates than difference is more.. so in case of small printers and those requires small run length CTcP is the best one from Luscher..

Below is the answer

Luscher is a good machine having capacity to xpose Conventional Positive Plates. recently Luscher has added certain features like improved Spining motor speed , Higher Laser power up to 140mW - 180mW , and is going to get higher in the future..

Earlier in old machine there were certain parts which were consumables but in new machines hardly any parts you will find as a consumables. New motor is brushless and speed is high using 32 UV laser diode than earlier version of luscher machine. so the output speed is not a problem.

incase you need the higher speed like other manufacturer you can add another 32 laser diode to increase speed.

however the speed of plates also depends upon the manufacturer, certain manufacturer has higher sensitivity on the plates so that will give more plate output in the machine.

Automation option is available with single machine and two machine what ever you choose. you can choose multi size plates for that.

The benefit over external drum technology is that here in luscher machine you do not need to rotate plate with certain balancing feature.

even it is easy to clean lenc of the laser diode assembly.

Size is compact.. a new series of luscher machine has the capacity to expose 2 plates of 4 up in 8 up machine which was not there in earlier machine for 8 up design.

ofcourse machine has latest UV laser 405nm with 180mW so initial cost of the laser will be high unlike all products in the market. once production will go high price will be reduced for that laser. Onething is that same laser may be used in the blue ray disc in the future , thus application is more so price will be lesser. Laser life is 10000 hours. so do not worry for laser life.

Present market price of the Thermal Plates are high in compare with PS plates. So why to go for Thermal at present?? if the same king of dot reproduction can be done using luscher machine???? thermal plate can give 1000000 runlength when backed and PS plate can give 4-500000 run length depending upon machine condition...

In case of thermal when price decreases in the future... Luscher has option to swith to thermal plate by spending few thousends EURO.... whats more diversity you want????

by the time market shows equal price for PS plates and thermal Plates you can easily recovered extra money spent for CTcP.....

Another thing immidetly you do not need to convert all your design in to digital form like publishing houses in india when job is repeated.


In compare with Basys CTcP ,, luscher is quit different.. basys can not give two options like luscher for thermal and conventional imaging. you can not change head of basys CTcp to produce thermal plates untill unless they make something working on that...

Another thing in basys CTcP is the consumables cost.. every 2000 hours you have to change lamp.

regarding plate rite its a good machine but only thermal imaging is that and the prices are up in the market.

one last comment.. if you can image a plate having almost same quality and quantity in one hour at the half price in compare with Thermal plates then why to invest in that as per present market... change the UV laser to thermal laser when price declines or equals the PS plate rate.... and bythe time it come to same price of PS plate.. your ROI is completly back......

Another thing... if the laser which luscher has 180mW 405nm could be invented before 5 years then what could be the condition... imaging out of 100 ctp u could find 60 CTps with conventional plate imaging.......

Please let me have your comments...
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: CTcP I am here to answer..

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Dear friends... i have been working on CP project for last one year and dd lots of homework on many CTP manufacturers and their different technology...

but if i compare with present price of Thermal/Violet plates with Ps plates than difference is more.. so in case of small printers and those requires small run length CTcP is the best one from Luscher..

Below is the answer

Luscher is a good machine having capacity to xpose Conventional Positive Plates. recently Luscher has added certain features like improved Spining motor speed , Higher Laser power up to 140mW - 180mW , and is going to get higher in the future..

Earlier in old machine there were certain parts which were consumables but in new machines hardly any parts you will find as a consumables. New motor is brushless and speed is high using 32 UV laser diode than earlier version of luscher machine. so the output speed is not a problem.

incase you need the higher speed like other manufacturer you can add another 32 laser diode to increase speed.

however the speed of plates also depends upon the manufacturer, certain manufacturer has higher sensitivity on the plates so that will give more plate output in the machine.

Automation option is available with single machine and two machine what ever you choose. you can choose multi size plates for that.

The benefit over external drum technology is that here in luscher machine you do not need to rotate plate with certain balancing feature.

even it is easy to clean lenc of the laser diode assembly.

Size is compact.. a new series of luscher machine has the capacity to expose 2 plates of 4 up in 8 up machine which was not there in earlier machine for 8 up design.

ofcourse machine has latest UV laser 405nm with 180mW so initial cost of the laser will be high unlike all products in the market. once production will go high price will be reduced for that laser. Onething is that same laser may be used in the blue ray disc in the future , thus application is more so price will be lesser. Laser life is 10000 hours. so do not worry for laser life.

Present market price of the Thermal Plates are high in compare with PS plates. So why to go for Thermal at present?? if the same king of dot reproduction can be done using luscher machine???? thermal plate can give 1000000 runlength when backed and PS plate can give 4-500000 run length depending upon machine condition...

In case of thermal when price decreases in the future... Luscher has option to swith to thermal plate by spending few thousends EURO.... whats more diversity you want????

by the time market shows equal price for PS plates and thermal Plates you can easily recovered extra money spent for CTcP.....

Another thing immidetly you do not need to convert all your design in to digital form like publishing houses in india when job is repeated.


In compare with Basys CTcP ,, luscher is quit different.. basys can not give two options like luscher for thermal and conventional imaging. you can not change head of basys CTcp to produce thermal plates untill unless they make something working on that...

Another thing in basys CTcP is the consumables cost.. every 2000 hours you have to change lamp.

regarding plate rite its a good machine but only thermal imaging is that and the prices are up in the market.

one last comment.. if you can image a plate having almost same quality and quantity in one hour at the half price in compare with Thermal plates then why to invest in that as per present market... change the UV laser to thermal laser when price declines or equals the PS plate rate.... and bythe time it come to same price of PS plate.. your ROI is completly back......

Another thing... if the laser which luscher has 180mW 405nm could be invented before 5 years then what could be the condition... imaging out of 100 ctp u could find 60 CTps with conventional plate imaging.......

Please let me have your comments...
Cost of machine is too much and plates are not performing well on the machine.I don't see very good reasons to go for CTcP.You must be having lesser commercial requirements at your unit.
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