CTcP?? someone ??

[Nasser]

Hello,

My manager just told me about the CTcP systems, i find this quite interesting but i am not quite sure about the quality of the dots and, in the end, of the Printed jobs.

Is anybody using this plates? with which systems? i heard of BasysPrint

Thanks!!

Nasser

[born2print]

CTcP = Client-to-client protocol?

[Nasser]

jajajaja.....i get the message Mastermind.

CTcP = Computer to Conventional Plates.

The old conventional plates exposed on a "Violet CTP"

The benefit? lower plate cost. and should be the same quality as a CTP Plate.

Hope this clear more the subject.

Thanks!!

[born2print]

Originally Posted by Nasser

jajajaja.....i get the message Mastermind.

CTcP = Computer to Conventional Plates.

The old conventional plates exposed on a "Violet CTP"

The benefit? lower plate cost. and should be the same quality as a CTP Plate.

Hope this clear more the subject.

Thanks!!

Whoa, first I've heard of it, but why not?! I'll agree that it's an interresting idea for sure.
Do you know of anyone doing this?

[30YearsandCounting]

There is one small newspaper printer in this area who has been using the BasysPrint system for the last few years. Apparently it works well for them. One of the big arguments for going this route was the cost of CTP plates vs. analog. As CTP has become more and more popular, I don't think the same price difference exists.

[born2print]

what about speed? anyone know plates / hr.?

[born2print]

Originally Posted by 30YearsandCounting

I don't think the same price difference exists.

I agree, certainly not 60-80% cost difference...
we calculate 20% cost difference at our pricing.

If it's too slow, may not even be a savings anymore!

[tbJAMMIN]

The trick to low plate costs is simple.

order 15,000 plates a month. That should put your base cost per plate down around $3-$4. Then refuse shipments on the 10 to 12 thousand that you can't use. By the time they figure out the scam, you will be working at a print shop that actually enjoys the benefits of modern plates.

The CtCP you speak of is a way to use massly produced (therefore cheap) conventional plates that are imaged with a UV light source. As the industry continues (notice, I didn't say "starts") to turn to different technologies, the price for the plates used for the new technologies will come down.

A couple of years from now, you will wonder if those conventional plates are made of gold, judging by the price.

Never mind the fact that you will most certainly be using an older RIP with your cheap plates. So much for customer service.....



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[beermonster]

yeah ctcp was a good "idea" but never really took off

i think there was the concept "expresso" setter from esko that never took off (i'm sure it was esko - not entirely sure of the name) and then basys ctcp system.

i've heard nothing but bad bad feedback about the basys system - from inconsistency to spare parts costing a fortune. couple that with the increasing costs of conventional plates - i dont think its the future.

then basys went bust i believe ( :?: )

i think i'd explore thermal/processless before ctcp - thats my advice. go where there's a good supply of plates, good service/back up - and you'll get a good product.

[steveagfa]

Beer...

basys was bought by a supplier to Agfa - Punch.
Punch has Xeikon, basys and Strobbe in their portfolio.

But true - Esko decided to cease its development of its
espresso CTcP setter - based on its dot-scanner architecture,
and first shown at drupa 2004.

Regards.