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07-08-2007, 04:55 AM
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Hehe, all that anger? Maybe it's time to go out for a walk?
Designers aren't color blind, most in fact, are very very picky with their color. However, if I must guess, I would say about 90% of them and photographers (photo dept) seriously have no core understanding of what color management workflow is.
It's very sad many simply assume it's prepress people's job to fix or correct or match what they provide regardless the piss poor conditions of their files.
Anyway, can someone answer my question?
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07-08-2007, 09:52 AM
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taking 2 weeks off... if any of the staff call with questions they better have some consulting fees
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07-10-2007, 09:58 AM
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I do agree that manually calibrating monitors is time consuming and subjective. I don't have that many monitors to calibrate so it's no big deal to me.
Again, my problem in the past with hardware calibration devices is; although they make a pleasing monitor color, it didn't match the press sheets. With that said, I have only used the monitor spider and have never tried the Eye One, maybe it allows you to profile your press sheet and match the monitor to the printed piece. If this were the case, I would say that is the way to go.
Either way, it's still all about matching the press sheet.
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07-10-2007, 11:24 AM
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FWIW,
It's important to realize that monitors are not stable and claibration should be rechecked (daily?) or so... MOST HUMANS WILL NOT DO THIS ON THEIR OWN.
That's where actual full-blown softproofing solutions can be handy... some will check the client calibration and if they refuse or fail to calibrate, the proof signoff gets marked "content only"...keeps things honest.
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07-12-2007, 04:33 AM
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Color Eyes I heard is very good. I always wanted to try it out. Especially when used with discontinued Xrite Monaco Optix XR but you can use it with pretty much anything you have.
I have both i1- Display 2 and Monaco Optix XR and they are not bad. When I have some time I will try Color Eyes to see if I can get better results than Monaco Optix XR and i1 - Display 2 with iMatch software.
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07-13-2007, 03:42 AM
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I use Eye-One with iOne-Match software and I m very happy with it's stability. Have also used Display 2 which is good too and Pantone Huey, which is not great, but does a decent job for its money I guess.
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07-31-2007, 07:43 PM
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X-Rite. I use it and it has options to match mulitple monitors. Pricey, but worth it. Then get the ICC profiles from your printshops presses if they have them. Find out what lighting they are using as well. Predicting color starts at a well calibrated monitor.
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08-01-2007, 05:20 PM
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I have also tried a number of monitor correction devices along with various hardware devices. I found Basicolor works the best for me. One huge plus Basiccolor gives you the option to edit the profile within the software along with custom white/black points / curve editing options
I had a huge problem convincing my color guru's (work with Gutenberg) that profiling was the way to go. They also like the old manual way. I was able read and to apply the white point / black point from the manual setting and roll them into Basicolor
Now I have 40+ machines that look similar, I say similar because nothing is a 100% match to the proof but it’s 98% of they way there
Hardware tool of choice is the Old Xrite Monaco Optix XR, Only because I got the at close out pricing
Take a look @
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08-17-2007, 01:26 PM
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Can all of these hardware devices be used on multiple workstations? I know that the i1 Dislpay 2 can, but I'm not sure about the 1i Display LT. What about the Spyder, Optix, and Huey?
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