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Gregg, I'm in the same situation as you. Our vendors are essentially giving us the same responses. Most printers don't trust clients to setup profiles correctly even if they do provide ICC profile for monitor calibration (which is what I have been receiving ICC profiles). That said, having calibrated monitors doesn't mean you'll have calibrated proofing outputs from your printer.
I think a bigger problem is printers rather not waste time helping you setup a working color management because theirs' is already working. Besides, they can always charge you for the extra "prep" work.
I have posted previously that our art dept tends to send things out in RGB with Adobe 1998 profile. They believe our printers will do a better job at converting to CMYK than if we do it in-house with a generic CMYK profile. Which is true, because ultimately our job has to run on their press.
Regardless what profiles we sent, our vendors will simply ignore our embedded profiles and overwrite it with their own. I do prefer sending out generic CMYK images than leaving it in RGB and give printers a chance to charge us for extra "prep" work.
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